Showing posts with label joe wilson. Show all posts
Showing posts with label joe wilson. Show all posts

Sunday, September 20, 2009

Obama Haters Here To Stay Unless

This movement by a small group of haters, led by Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity, could ultimately lead to violence because these people have lost their collective minds. Glenn Beck is clearly mentally ill. I don't care how many psychologists he pays to bring on his show. His level of paranoia is abnormal.
I don't know how those folks can get up everyday and spew so much hate. Their insides must be rotting.
This week's New York magazine explores and nails the Obama haters, the ones that all the republicans deny. The crazies are a small, obnoxious and dangerous group of people. Bill Cosby and Jimmy Carter have it exactly right. The only way we're going to stop these folks is to denounce them at every opportunity, shame them, apply the peer pressure. Show their children that what their parents are doing is wrong. Republicans ought to be condemning the haters. But they won't do anything until an act of violence takes place. Obama can't stop them. But democrats should stand up and so should the rest of the sane population. Some excerpts (read in full):
All around were satanic representations of President Barack Obama in whiteface, as a Nazi, an African witch doctor, a Marxist, a Muslim, and Che Guevara’s best friend—but Kathy Golya had never felt so good about the new administration as she did right now. It was a day after Representative Joe Wilson’s outburst in Congress, and the South Carolina congressman had given voice to Golya’s inner heart. He hadn’t just said it on the Internet, he had said it to the president himself.

No, it was not the appropriate place, Golya said, but still she glowed with the memory. “It was the first time in my life I felt good, since he got into office. Someone had called him a liar.”

A prim, slender homemaker in her fifties from northeastern Pennsylvania, Golya had come out to a tea party in Scranton with her friend Donna Biscontini to have solidarity with everyone else with strong criticisms of the president. Not really criticisms, actually, but feelings—anger, upset, a sense of dispossession. There had been a kind of revolution in the country with Obama’s election, the women felt. They talked about the president’s “czars.” One of the czars believed that animals should have lawyers to sue their owners. “Animals have more rights than people,” Biscontini said. Another was for forced sterilization. “Who’s that sound like? Hitler,” Golya said. The president was putting himself at a godly level, was her point; he was saying that man controls his destiny, not God. She saw that as arrogance. She mentioned that the president’s wife wore $600 shoes when she was helping the poor.

Golya, who was Kittykat on the Internet, saw her conflict with Obama as a battle of souls. She prayed for the president every day. “For his conversion.”

I asked her if she thought he was a secret Muslim. “Only he knows that; we don’t know that,” she said. “I’m praying for the conversion of his heart.”
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When Rush Limbaugh talked about “two Americas,” he wasn’t wrong. The haters’ focus on Che Guevara, Saul Alinsky, and Bill Ayers was a kind of projection. They were radicals, and the sixties provided the readiest role models. They were determined to be the counter-counterculture, and they weren’t going away.

“It’s like if Che Guevara had written Profiles in Courage,” Cashill says, seizing on the left-wing revolutionary hero whose image crops up with surprising frequency on posters in the tea-party rallies. “If people had known before the election, 1960, not only had JFK not written Profiles in Courage but his old man bought him the Pulitzer Prize, that would have cost him the election.”

Then Cashill injected the race issue. He said he had been embarrassed to buy Obama’s book in the Detroit airport, but the black clerk had been gushing and thrilled. What did race have to do with authorship?

The Obama people at first thought that the birthers would simply go away or, maybe even better, lead the Republican Party into the light of truth, where the party would continue to shrivel. That didn’t happen.

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This was the real concern raised by the haters. Violent fantasies, even cartoonish ones, as these seemed to be, have a way of turning real. Nancy Pelosi has likened the hateful rhetoric boiling up during the health-care debate to the anti-gay reaction that formed against the gay-rights movement in San Francisco in the seventies, culminating of course in the murder of mayor George Moscone and supervisor Harvey Milk. Before John Kennedy was assassinated, right-wingers in Texas accused him of “treason.” Today’s Obama haters throw that word around more often than the left had thrown around Fascism. At an Obama town hall in New Hampshire, a man carried a gun along with a poster of a DON’T TREAD ON ME snake with the legend IT IS TIME TO WATER THE TREE OF LIBERTY, referring to the Thomas Jefferson quote about renewing the republic with blood.

Ed Hale was obviously a bullshitter, but he took it way too far. A minute after he said he’d never ever threaten anyone’s life, he said, “My biggest villain right now is Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Those jackasses should be found guilty of treason, stood up against a wall, and shot.”

Saturday, September 19, 2009

Joe Wilson Gets All Choked Up

When I saw the caption on this video "Wilson regrets emotional outburst," I thought I'd see Joe Wilson finally start to show some regret. Uh uh. Instead, he says he's become a target of ACORN, the left, MoveOn. Just more Wilson whining. Then he gets choked up. He's getting choked up for the wrong reason. As long as he continues to blame others, he hasn't realized the full impact of his deed. This statement is just Glenn Beck food.
I think we all recognize sincerity when we see it and it's just not there. Similar to John Edwards' lack of sincerity when he apologized for his affair. There's something about Wilson that's strange, his mannerisms or the way he speaks. I haven't figured it out yet.

Tuesday, September 15, 2009

South Carolinians Love Their Man Joe Wilson

Joe Wilson and South Carolinians might not know they're racist. That's because they grew up racist. It's as much a part of them as the hair on their head. Wilson doesn't see a black man as his equal because in South Carolina a black person is not equal to a white person, which is why it was easy for him to heckle the president.
Think about how you talk to a person that you consider your intellectual equal vs. how you might speak to someone you consider kind of dim, say a conversation with Paul Krugman vs. one with Glenn Beck. You'd be more apt to call Beck an idiot before you'd call Krugman an idiot.
For some people, instead of intelligence and character, it's the color of a person's skin that automatically triggers disrespect. A lot of people in the south actually believe that the size of a black person's brain is smaller.
But I think more people are realizing some serious racism has bubbled up to the surface and much of it is pouring out of the South and many of us are disgusted and disheartened. The question is, what do we do now that we know?

Why shouldn't South Carolinians love their man. He shouted "You Lie!" all for them, according to his wife Roxanne. Joe is a beautiful guy.

Joe Wilson Voted Formally a Fool

The vote passed along party lines, which means the republicans are continuing their journey to Fringeville.
House Democrats dealt South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson a formal rebuke Wednesday, taking the rare step of passing a resolution of disapproval for his famous “you lie!” outburst last week in the House chamber.

The vote was 240-179, falling almost exclusively along party lines.

While Democrats said they were defending the rules of the House and enforcing the traditional decorum of the chamber, Republicans mounted a fierce attack on the resolution, saying it was a waste of time after Wilson had duly apologized to President Barack Obama for his outburst during a joint address to Congress. While a resolution of disapproval is little more than a slap on the wrist, a formal roll call vote like this – permanently entered into the Congressional Record – is extremely rare. Politico.

Monday, September 14, 2009

Gallup Poll Says Joe Wilson A Fool

Joe Wilson can entertain the fringe for his 15 minutes, but it looks like the rest of the nation thinks his heckling was downright foolish:
Americans come down strongly in opposition to South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson's "You lie!" outburst during President Obama's address to Congress on healthcare last Wednesday, though majorities on both sides of the issue do not seem passionate in their views. Sixty-eight percent of Americans interviewed in the Sept. 11-13 USA Today/Gallup poll say they oppose what Wilson did, while 21% say they support it. Gallup
What I wonder is where they dug up the people for their survey. I'm sure most Americans aren't even paying that much attention. Or are they?

Sunday, September 13, 2009

Eric Cantor Defends Joe Wilson

Joe Wilson didn't apologize. Now that Cantor is defending Wilson, that puts him on the official wingnut list. Cantor also defends his Blackberry use by pretending like he cares about health care reform. You Lie, Cantor!

Joe Wilson: It Was a Town Hall Moment

This guy is the biggest idiot going. You can tell he thinks this is his moment to seize power. Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame Mr. Wilson:

It Wasn't "You Lie." It Was "You Lie, Boy"

It's about time. The media is finally coming around to reality. The wingnut backlash against Obama is being caused by a racist undercurrent in this nation, which is strong, despite the fact that the majority elected Obama. Look at how emboldened Joe Wilson has been after his "apology," an apology that he made clear wasn't something he was inclined to do but something that the leadership required him to do. You'd think he would've been shamed and embarrassed. But no. He's been running around establishing cred with the wingnuts. Wilson is now the hero of Rush Limbaugh. That says it all. As Maureen Dowd points out in her column today, he is a wingnut:
Surrounded by middle-aged white guys — a sepia snapshot of the days when such pols ran Washington like their own men’s club — Joe Wilson yelled “You lie!” at a president who didn’t.

But, fair or not, what I heard was an unspoken word in the air: You lie, boy!

The outburst was unexpected from a milquetoast Republican backbencher from South Carolina who had attracted little media attention. Now it has made him an overnight right-wing hero, inspiring “You lie!” bumper stickers and T-shirts.

The congressman, we learned, belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, led a 2000 campaign to keep the Confederate flag waving above South Carolina’s state Capitol and denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president. Wilson clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.

I’ve been loath to admit that the shrieking lunacy of the summer — the frantic efforts to paint our first black president as the Other, a foreigner, socialist, fascist, Marxist, racist, Commie, Nazi; a cad who would snuff old people; a snake who would indoctrinate kids — had much to do with race.
Read the whole thing

Axelrod: Tea Party Protesters Don't Represent Mainstream

Got that tea partiers.
Carry your guns, make your ugly signs, push, scream and march all you want but you are not the majority. You are a sliver of America, a teeny tiny one. The American people have already spoken.
Bob Schieffer showed a 60 Minutes clip, which airs tonight, in which Obama says he wants to figure out how to make civility interesting so the media isn't covering in-your-face wingnuts around the clock. I am so weary of wingnuts. We have to figure out how to defuse them, though, before they resort to violence.

Olympia Snowe, the other guest on the show, says there is no way to pass healthcare reform with a public option, so Obama may as well take it off the table.
Can we get a pre-vote?
Snowe called Joe Wilson's behavior disgraceful and she said that she has never witnessed such an outburst.
The Face the Nation roundtable concluded Obama is going to let the Senate take the public option off the table.
Roger Simon of Politico said there is no upside for republicans in achieving a bipartisan bill, so they're not likely to participate. I'd say that's pretty clear.

Friday, September 11, 2009

Verification of Residency Required for Insurance Exchange

While Joe Wilson upped his idiot factor in the past two days, running around defending himself on Hannity and elsewhere, instead of having any sort of shame, the Obama administration reiterated, under reform, illegal immigrants would not be covered.
A White House spokesman, Reid Cherlin, said that the president’s proposals would bar illegal immigrants from purchasing private insurance through the new government marketplace, known as an exchange, and that verification of immigration status would be required for anyone seeking to purchase coverage.

Although Mr. Obama in his speech referred to his “plan,” the White House has not developed a written legislative health care proposal and does not intend to do so, instead relying on committees in Congress, which have drafted several versions of the bill, some running more than 1,000 pages.

Mr. Cherlin said the White House was considering various enforcement options, including the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements program, which states now use to prevent illegal immigrants from accessing government aid programs for which they are not eligible. Read the whole thing at NYT
And, as Wilson runs around shooting things out of his pie hole, "You Lie!" has become a funny.

Dionne and Brooks Discuss Health Reform Sept. 11

E.J. Dionne and David Brooks discuss Obama's health care speech, reform and the "You Lie!" liar. I think Brooks understands Obama better than most journalists/pundits. Read Brooks' column on Obama's speech here and Dionne's here.

Thursday, September 10, 2009

McCaskill on Obama's Speech and Public Option

Obama Accepts Joe Wilson's Apology

I don't often say this but POTUS rocks!

Wilson talks about his apology.

Dean: Health Reform is in the Hands of the Democrats

Howard Dean says democrats have the majority now and republicans have dropped off the bill, so it's put up or shut up (I paraphrased). Dean says the public option fight is over. He doesn't know exactly what the public option will look like but he said he's sure it will be part of the bill.

Wednesday, September 09, 2009

Obama's Speech to Congress Sept. 9

Read the text here.
I'm astonished and quite disturbed that about half way through the speech some ugly republican yelled "lie" during Obama's speech. Obama had said reform wouldn't cover illegal immigrants. Republicans proved themselves the fools tonight. Representative Joe Wilson of South Carolina is the heckler. If you're on Twitter, here's his address: @CongJoeWilson. Phone: (202) 225-2452 / (803) 939-0041. What's wrong with South Carolina politicians? Poor Joe's website just crashed. Wilson will be up against Rob Miller in 2010.
GOP ought to know that tea parties are the place for ugly behavior, not a president's speech to Congress. Watch Obama's eyes in the video. He gets mad but keeps it together.
Live chat following the speech at whitehouse.gov
Read the text of Ted Kennedy's letter that Obama referenced here.

Update Reaction to Obama's speech positive: