John McCain is against torture and against the torture probe.
I'm on the fence on this issue.
Torture should be off the table, even if it works (which it doesn't but the argument is always presented). No doubt about that. It wasn't the right thing to do and it will never be the right thing to do.
But prosecutions?
One thing is for sure, CIA agents, who were following orders from higher ups, shouldn't be prosecuted. But I'd sure like to see Cheney on the run.
The debate is good though. We need to clear the air. We need to know what roles people had. All of this needs some sunshine.
But ultimately, I'm not sure prosecutions are the right path. I think we were led by a bunch of people who were lost and trapped in a bubble of terrorism. They lived and breathed it and lost sight of everything else--everything. Look at the current state of our economy.
Bush-Cheney were laser focused on terrorism and that's pretty much it. They were incompetent.
Except for a handful of people, Bush's people thought they were doing what was best for the country. Even Condi Rice signed off on torture. She may have been mislead but I find it hard to believe Rice didn't have good intentions.
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Thursday, April 23, 2009
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
Cheney is Disturbed
Update: MSNBC is reporting that Obama is leaving the door open to prosecutions.
Original post:
Hannity, such a putz, asks: Did Joe Biden reach out to you? Why in the world would Biden reach out to tainted Mole Man. Ick.Hannity may as well have been sitting in Cheney's lap. If Cheney thinks torture is a "success," he's a very sick man.
Meanwhile, Cheney is trying to prove his innocence by trying to declassify CIA records to show that torture works, which means that we probably should be prosecuting Cheney and everyone else involved in the memos. Originally, I thought that was a bad idea but it may be the right thing to do after all. Sen. Dianne Feinstein is asking Obama to hold off on any final decisions until the intelligence committee finishes its investigation:
Democrats and international officials pressed for a fuller accounting of what happened. Senator Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat and chairwoman of the Intelligence Committee, wrote Mr. Obama asking him not to rule out prosecutions until her panel completed an investigation over the next six to eight months. NYTCheney's argument that torture works is idiotic in any light because even if it did work, it doesn't mean that's the right way to get information or even the best way. It's similar to the surge argument. Just because the so-called surge worked in Iraq doesn't mean preemptive efforts or a different solution might've worked better.
Personally, I think Cheney was the point man in the downfall of this country. He seems to be a twisted man with an agenda. He's showing signs of ego and guilt.
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