Anyway, here is Obama's birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser, which for them, wouldn't prove anything. Hawaii put out a release stating that Obama's birth certificate is real but the wingnuts didn't buy it. Hawaii is in on it, they say. Factcheck held Obama's BC and took photos of someone holding it. They didn't buy it. Factcheck is in on it, too. It's all a big cover up.
The Chicago Tribune debunked it again today. Wingnuts didn't believe.
The thing is, these are scary people. At the heart of this matter is racism. Their ignorance is plenty scary, too.